Green Paper sends no signal for change
Blog Post | Blog of Christine Milne
Wednesday 16th July 2008, 4:52pm
by TimHollo in
The Rudd Government's Emissions Trading Green Paper can now be downloaded from the Climate Change Department website here.
I've been trying to get to do a post on this since 12.30, but I'm alone in the office with Christine and the phone's been ringing off the hook - which is a good thing!
We will do a proper detailed post, but in the meantime, here is Christine's release from this arvo.
The upshot is that the Government has put their foot on the accelerator and the brake at the same time. The leak this morning about essentially keeping petrol out of the scheme (raising the price with one hand and dropping it by the same amount with the other!) is symbolic of the whole thing. An emissions trading scheme is about driving new investment, but this proposal would protect existing coal investments, shutting the door on efficiency and renewables and mass transit and alternative fuels.
Professor Garnaut is likely to be very unimpressed indeed today. His hard work has just been utterly trashed.

I notice that the govt won't
I notice that the govt won't attach a carbon price to deforestation-ie landclearing, but appears to be offering a payment promise for avoided deforestation-ie doing nothing. Won't that mean that there is then an incentive for landholders to put land up for clearing in order to gain some of this compensation for avoided deforestation? If that happens won't we be paying shedloads of money for false abatement? Where will it end?? Will I get paid for not chopping down the trees in my backyard? It seems bizarre. I'm all for biodiversity stewardship payments but not for rorting of tax dollars-expect a rush on clearing applications everywhere where they haven't yet been banned!!
[...] initial blog entry
[...] initial blog entry (with a link to the PDF of Christine Milne’s press release) from the Greens - not surprisingly, they’re unimpressed by the patchwork [...]
One difference between the
One difference between the Green Paper and the Garnaut Review is that Garnaut proposes $3 billion or 20% of auction revenue (whichever is greater) should be invested in technology and RD&D, while the only technology emphasis in the green paper is on carbon capture and storage (as assistance to the coal industry). The extra handouts for big polluters effectively mean that cash would not be available for RD&D, and there will be less available for compensating households. Because there is a price cap, the emissions cap is not strict, which means that it is not even a real cap and trade scheme.
Garnaut has stated that a carbon tax would be much better than a badly designed cap and trade scheme. A carbon tax would be much better than the 'Preferred Positions' in the Green Paper.
I don't understand what all
I don't understand what all the fuss is about with regards to the aluminium industry with respect to GHG emissions trading.
The overwhelming majority of the GHG emissions attributed to the aluminium industry don't come directly from the aluminium smelters themselves, but instead they come from the coal fired power stations, since aluminium production requires large amounts of electricity, and therefore these emissions from the power stations are indirectly chalked up to the aluminum industry.
For these indirect GHG emissions, presumably the aluminium producers do not need to pay for GHG emissions permits, because the electricity generators are the ones producing the emissions, and passing the cost of GHG permits onto the users paying for their electricity, integrated into the price of electricity.
Of course, if they can get electricity cheaper in other countries (either in other industrialised countries with more environmentally sustainable electricity generation that isn't almost all coal, or in developing countries where they aren't paying for GHG emissions), then they will just move off shore if they find it economically competitive.
But we can quite easily slash the greenhouse gas emissions intensity of electricity generation here, too - aluminium smelters just use electricity, and it doesn't particularly matter what kind of environmentally sustainable electricity generation you're using to generate that electricity.
Anyway - it's very much a shame to see handouts given to coal-fired generation - it's clear that under such a scheme, nothing much will ever change.
It's very disappointing that
It's very disappointing that not only will the big polluters have us all continuing to share the impacts of their emissions while keeping the profits to themselves, but that they will now actually be compensated for their past failure to act and the meagre adjustments they now have to make. They should have seen the writing on the wall years ago about the need to accommodate action on climate change, and there should be no soft landing now. The argument regarding job losses needs to be heeded by government, but only in the form of protections for vulnerable workers, not their industrial masters, who in the past have been willing to downsize or offshore labour at the drop of an economic hat.
What was it that Garnaut
What was it that Garnaut said about governments being politically incapable of addressing global warming?
Methinks it's time for civil disobedience...
This proposal is so slack
This proposal is so slack that it could get the support of the Lib/Nats to get it through the senate without the Greens???
Forest degradation and
Forest degradation and rangeland degradation do not get mentioned, but the Green Paper suggests that carbon sequestered in forest products should be included in an international climate change framework. This is a similar approach to Australia's reporting to the UNFCCC (which is slightly different to Kyoto accounting), where carbon sequestered in wood products is reported but emissions from forest degradation and rangeland degradation are not.
Green Paper, p.17:
The Rudd govt just blew the
The Rudd govt just blew the last of its credibility with me, its difficult to see how they could have compromised the ETS any further. Polluters will be so thrilled by the protracted giveaway they will quickly whip the Liberals into line and laugh all the way to the bank. The scale of institutional deceit ("this will make a difference") forces Direct Action.
Me no smiley, your site
Me no smiley, your site content mgmt system is too smart for its own good. Maybe you could get it a job with Penny Wong?
This opinion piece by Anna
This opinion piece by Anna Rose and Amanda McKenzie of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition is worth reading.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/17/2306124.htm
Wishin and Hopein Or
Wishin and Hopein
Or perhaps the ETS Green Paper should be called a Clayton’s paper, an ETS when you are not having an ETS.
Sarcasm apart, the two main outcomes of Penny Wong’s speech at the Press Club yesterday was, firstly the preservation of the Social Economic status quo in particular fossil fuel powered generation, hence the “wishin and hopein” for clean coal technology, buying time.
Secondly it would appear the government, as in “Public Service” and most probably the public services in other countries, are having great difficulty in modelling greenhouse economics. Coupled with political requirements from the personalities that impose the social specifications, departments may not have only blown the odd gasket on the cooling system of their super computer but also have caused hypertensive episodes in their personnel.
My guess is, that current modelling is based on conventional economic algorithms that approach the problem from the monetary economics side. Fundamentally this is a physics problem, in the last 300 years humans have one way ratcheted up the energy economy exponentially till we have hit the current limits. Deliberate or natural reduction in energy consumption causes immediate undesirable effects, energy is the reference vector.
When an analysis of the problem is made from the physics side describing energy as an economy and then converted onto the monetary side by accounting according to the rules of the energy economy, even at the level of fundamental principles a much clearer analysis can be made. Using such a basic analysis, given the time frame envisaged, ETS is likely to be a nail biting experience as far as predicted climate change is concerned unless it is draconian. To be equitable a more direct change of technology and lifestyle is needed supplemented by ETS.
The history of homo sapiens has been of continuous technological inventiveness and the most significant inventions have been those involving energy. Agriculture is perhaps the most well known change to human life style yet hunting and gathering still do exist both as recreation and for a very few a livelihood, change alters status but rarely extinction.
The current energy crisis and its eventual solution is no different to that energy crisis which brought about the industrial revolution. Wood ran out in England from population growth and ship building, leading to the very reluctant adoption of coal (considered fowl). The now deep coal mines flooded and the invention of steam engine came to the rescue. The industrial revolution was born and the social order changed with the current Capital and Labour politics we know today evolving. Many say that current Liberal and Labour politics are starting to parallel each other, it could be argued that the reason is the end of the industrial revolution era is approaching. The threat of return of a diversified energy economy as opposed to centralised (capital ownership) energy system threatens both Liberal and Labour ideologies.
Whatever, the outcome of the current debates and future polices, change will take place in the historical near future wether by man or forced directly by nature. Tying to preserve the present, in my opinion, is an exercise in futility.
This ETS is clearly designed
This ETS is clearly designed to get enough coalition support that the Greens won't be needed to get it through the Senate.
You can thank the doctrinaire statements by Bob Brown for that.
An ETS will be established and can be modified as it goes along. That is good!
[...] discussion thread on
[...] discussion thread on the Green Paper at Larvatus Prodeo with more links. See also Peter Martin, GreensBlog, and crikey. [...]
If only, Jovial Monk. "Page
If only, Jovial Monk.
"Page 150 3.1 Preferred position ..
There would not be power to extinguish permits without compensation, unless there had been misrepresentation or fraud by the holder against the Australian Government or the scheme regulator in the creation or issue of the permits. ..
The creation of equitable interests in permits would be permitted, as would taking security over them. .. "
They're creating a new class of speculative instruments, supported by govt requirement to hold & trade them. To change, dillute or extinguish pollution permits would require compensating the holders. Ring any bells with water rights? Look how much good water trading has done .. not.
Good luck on that direct
Good luck on that direct action thing.
Most people (70% min.) of the population, are thinking less about this, now that they hear that excise is cut off petrol.
"Its cheaper now! Its cheaper now!"
That is likely, in my view, to lead to a slackening off of interest.
Direct action to 'get' people to think and act against their own interest and personal profit, gets squat all. Although a lot of inner city 20-somethings will be out there (like I was), but in the end, it will look like rich kids not understanding the hardships people are going through.
Meanwhile, an attack on Iran means that oil-based products & services will rise 50-100% within a week, and the sleepy will awake as uneducated about the true effect of this all.
Then my greenish friends, it will be time to start Operation Permaculture. People will need to eat (albeit 3 months before the tomatoes come up)
Oh well, easy going Australian ways will have to change. Just might involve a giant big wall.
For me, if the Govt had become more proactive in reorientating the ETS towards renewables, at least, my wall analogy may not be worth posting about. But, it looks like it is.
Good luck, Australia!
With all the talk about the
With all the talk about the environment, Peter Lambert - Independent Candidate for Kwinana ask the greens to take a stand this coming WA State election and Ban the " How to vote card now " forever.
Now the Greens can also stand where there interest is and ban the " How to vote card " in the coming election.
We know Labor and Liberals will not join, as the are keen to pressure the Voters at the polling booth.
So this election show your stand for the environment.
The plot thickens
Yesterday Penny Wong stated that the Government is prepared to consider alternatives to their carbon trading scheme. This is a seismic shift in position because previously calls were for input into the carbon trading scheme, not it's potential abandonment and whole new system considered. I sense a complete capitulation to the big end of town coming on, complete with face-saving carbon tax.
Interestingly BHP Biliton's Don Argus is amoungst those powerful business people now calling for the scraping of carbon cap and trade, and the imposition of universal carbon tax. Not sure what to make of this, except that without a cap, a tax would work in the major polluters favour.
Basically a simple carbon tax (no cap) would be business as usual, passing the tax on to consumers with no real incentive to reduce emissions. Sure there would be a temporary dampening of demand, but demand would bounce back all too soon.
The tax would favour the exporting multinationals as guaranteed the tax would not apply to exports "to enable us to compete in world markets".
Also the universal tax would spread the price to all goods and services equally, irrespective of the amount of carbon emissions, as it would be tied to economic activity. So a business in cyberspace would pay the same rate of tax as an aluminium smelter based on turnover or profit.
I suppose a carbon tax would be on profit and a large and complex multi layered business would be able to shuffle profits around and so minimise their exposure - that's it! Yes, a carbon tax on nett profit would enable a big business to virtually eliminate paying a carbon tax by moving legitimate business expenses around and between companies - OK so I'm a bit slow. Should have realised that this was the big end of town's way of avoiding liability and passing on the costs of their polluting habits - 'twas ever thus.
I'm sure the Greens are 'on to it', but be prepared for the cap and trade scheme being abandoned in favour of a 'simple' carbon tax. Then insist that it be a tax and cap. No matter the scheme, it is only the cap that will give certainty to carbon emission reduction. BHP Biliton will be able to shuffle it's funds around to it's shareholders content and the environments loss, but a cap on the companies emissions will see it clean up it's act.
But wait there's more
Yesterday's quote by Michael Costello, head of ACTEW AGL, in supporting the plans for a 120 hectare solar farm.
"It is quite clear that the emissions trading system or carbon tax or whatever might be brought in by the Federal Government ................................"
Notice that an ETS has been relegated to something that "might" be introduced. There is definitely a move a foot to abandon the ETS. It's not a dead duck yet, but it's being strangled.
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